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From: Mark R
Excellent discussion about choice. People are only free when they have choice. I guess the only one with no choice is the person making the cake in your example? They are enslaved to make it, meaning others through force of government can mandate a person provide their labor even against their own will. Interesting. On to The Drumhead: My Grandfather retired from the Calumet City, Illinois police force as a Lieutenant and my Dad was medically retired from the same force after being shot in the line of duty. They are both passed now and I retain much memorabilia from their careers. They both drilled into my head NEVER TALK TO THE POLICE. The only thing they want is to convict you. The system is corrupt from top to bottom and always has been. It had nothing to do with race as the talk is now. They would convict whoever was charged. They train endlessly on how to get you to talk, including lying to you over and over, beating you down mentally. Never go downtown to answer questions and don't talk to them. If you make it difficult for them they generally move on to the next person. In the US over 80% of people that go to trial get not guilty. Don't talk and don't agree to a deal. Hearing them talk at home and with their friends is why I never became an officer. 3 years ago I served on a felony case here. It took 3 days and when we went to deliberate it was immediate acquittal. In fact it was so quick we agreed to wait to hand out the verdict so we could get lunch on the state. It pays poorly, only $40/day. The state had virtually no evidence and we felt they wasted our time and the time of the defendant especially. Several times the judge did tell us to ignore something said after an objection was sustained. Ridiculous. This case worked out but I long ago decided to never convict anyone due to the corrupt system. I would have held out for not guilty no matter what happened. Mark R